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- From: ian@rsd.bel.alcatel.be (Ian Ward)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
- Subject: Re: Unix Haters
- Date: 28 Mar 1996 18:17:47 GMT
- Organization: Alcatel Bell Telephone
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- James McIninch writes >
-
- > you write for those, not because they're powerful, efficient, easy to work
- > with, etc., but because people will buy your stuff. If you write large-scale
- > projects for mission-critical applications in networked environments, chances
- > are pretty good you'll work with UNIX, which has the greatest market share
- > for that sort of thing.
-
- That is more to do with the fact that mostly graduates work in
- those areas. The were weaned on Unix which was really cheap for
- their college to buy (or free,) and they did not want to use
- anything else when they left, twenty years on, and the graduates
- now order equipment and stock.
-
- I see a lot of the people who these days saying VMS is crap and
- difficult to use, but a lot (not all) have not even used it, and
- some of those that have not ventured past DCL.
-
- These two operating systems, to me, define the differences between
- something that had to be sold, and something that was never
- originally designed to be. I am not taking away from the unix team
- there are as many clever, nifty, things in Unix, as there are in
- the Fiat 500. I am also not saying I cannot use it successfully
- either, I have tolerated it now for a few years.
-
- What I am saying is that :
-
- 1. Its not reliable, no operating system worth its salt could
- have a list of bugs in its manual tables without making serious
- attempts to fix them in future releases. This can not now be done
- because of the huge numbers of people who have worked on it over
- the years, there are reams of software that depend on the bugs.
- It is like a bad golfer aiming right to correct a slice,
- rather than addressing the root problem.
-
- 2. It is not efficient. Ok, so loads of people are bound to argue
- with this one. You'll say, as I have heard hundreds of times before
- that you can solve any problem in ten different ways. This, in my
- eyes is not efficiency, because it simply means that nine out of the
- ten solutions are not as efficient as they could be.
-
- 3. Its utilities are not intuitive either, grep, as was quoted
- in an earlier article as being a good unix utility, cost me a
- weeks work last year, when it could not find simple strings in
- a catenation (admittedly massive) series of files. As for tar,
- well, the most hilarious thing is that people who use it daily
- think it is quite good.
-
- 4. One sees few books on comparative strengths and weaknesses
- of say, MSDOS and VMS, but there are acres of unix books in
- existence comparing unix to MSDOS. What does this say about
- its power?
-
- 5. It only supports one language, (really.)
-
- 6. It is cheap, which is why it succeeded, and it is so simple
- (requires so little support) that it will run on anything.
- Though I wish it truly supported VMS's asynchronous system traps
- in all their power, (and messaging, and command definition)
- but it doesn't.
-
- 7. It is cheap, like a cheap whore, but I can cope with that,
- and as an engineer, I find some of the things it does quite
- clever, but I would rather work with an heavily engineered
- operating system that has cost money to develop, and works,
- than one which no matter how clever it is, and it is clever,
- always leaves you with the feeling that the highly stressed
- nature of its solutions are just about ready to crack.
-
- Best regards,
-
- ---
- Ian Ward's opinions only : ian@rsd.bel.alcatel.be
- Just in case you play golf and noticed the mistake, the golfer
- I was talking about is left handed, and works in Tayntons
- solicitors in Gloucester.
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